tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post7631408310112771399..comments2024-01-04T19:27:02.335-08:00Comments on Zenpolitics: Poppy Appeal and Royal British Legion's appropriation of Eric Bogle's anti-war anthemJohn Hilleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10072819649049077782noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-48140464164618243172014-11-11T08:10:55.642-08:002014-11-11T08:10:55.642-08:00A version released today by Scottish school childr...A version released today by Scottish school children for War Child UK.<br /><br />Eric gave the pupils permission last year to record this.<br /><br />He today described this version as '...a truly truthful and emotive performance'.<br /><br />http://youtu.be/LV3huPJOC7U Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-59587112646559578102014-11-10T02:46:07.514-08:002014-11-10T02:46:07.514-08:00I tuned in late to Joss Stone on TV - I was utterl...I tuned in late to Joss Stone on TV - I was utterly baffled as to what song she was murdering but I heard a couple of vaguely familiar phrases and googled them , went thru Emmy Lou Harris, then found Eric Bogle's version on Youtube. It was fabulous, beautiful I was in tears and all this 100th anniversary stuff finally meant something to me, so thank you Eric for writing and singing this song, and backhanded thanks to Ms Stone for provoking me to seek it out. I wish you could emphasise to Eric how much it is appreciated by many people. Margaret GrayMargaret Graynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-78677444301830120662014-11-09T09:26:15.194-08:002014-11-09T09:26:15.194-08:00An honourable additional verse, Ocheye. Thanks.An honourable additional verse, Ocheye. Thanks.John Hilleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10072819649049077782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-36079893795938615182014-11-09T08:55:50.733-08:002014-11-09T08:55:50.733-08:00Terrible version. Whoever came up with the idea of...Terrible version. Whoever came up with the idea of turning this song in to a blues/ gospel song needs to listen to the Furey's version.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-16744439293254940982014-11-09T04:46:33.797-08:002014-11-09T04:46:33.797-08:00I've sung No Man's Land twice this week wi...I've sung No Man's Land twice this week with a preamble that was almost as long as the song (and I've sung it in RBL's before) <br /> They got the full version (complete with bugles rather than a band) there wasn't a dry eye in the house but maybe that was my singing?<br />I wonder what Eric would make of my tortured prose:<br /><br /> "Well I can’t help but wonder young Willie<br />McBride <br />How the Royal British Legion could be so ill<br />advised<br />Did they really believe they would advance<br />the ‘Cause’<br />By murdering a peace song to glorify wars.<br />Joss Stone and Jeff Beck you were brought in<br />as ‘names’ <br />Great artists you may be - Hang your heads<br />in shame<br />This sanitised version you made is so lame,<br />If you read Bogle’s lyrics it might not be<br />in vain"Ocheyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15358729362229733853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-62974274930606636962014-11-07T09:33:25.752-08:002014-11-07T09:33:25.752-08:00Yes, truly an insult to so many.Yes, truly an insult to so many.joolsemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-34014740764899255382014-11-07T06:23:15.211-08:002014-11-07T06:23:15.211-08:00Those are not the original lyrics - they are lyric...Those are not the original lyrics - they are lyrics popularised by the Fureys in their Irish hit(minor differences, but still, for the sake of correctness...)(for instance, when did a band ever play the Last Post??)<br /><br />The Fureys lyrics<br /><br />http://www.martindardis.com/id169.html<br /><br />Eric Bogle's lyrics (from his site)<br /><br />http://ericbogle.net/lyrics/lyricspdf/nomansland.pdf<br /><br />And this is a version by June Tabor on her 1976/7? album Ashes and Diamonds. I heard Eric Bogle once say in an interview that he though this was the definitive version<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWhOO9Q323Y<br /><br /><br /><br />Enjoy (with reverence)<br /><br />A folkie...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-22152124457261296822014-11-07T05:47:09.171-08:002014-11-07T05:47:09.171-08:00I clicked the link to play Eric's performance ...I clicked the link to play Eric's performance of the song, and have to note that the words he sings do not match the words in the lyrics you posted, especially the chorusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-59420631794472033072014-11-07T05:08:17.460-08:002014-11-07T05:08:17.460-08:00Who at the RBL thought butchering/censoring this s...Who at the RBL thought butchering/censoring this song was a good idea? I think a name and an explanation is in order?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-38141875360459643902014-11-06T13:51:35.642-08:002014-11-06T13:51:35.642-08:00I think what they have done to the song is an insu...I think what they have done to the song is an insult, both to the writer and to all of the poor soldiers who were sent to their deaths in that horrific war for the cause of furthering imperialist ambition. But I thought that surely Eric Bogle must have given his permission, so I googled and found your post. So thank you for posting this. I think he is being more charitable than I would have been, but it's good to hear his view. He's probably right to say that it doesn't actually glorify war, and that it may lead some people to consider the cost of war. It may also lead some people to the full version of the song. But the fact is they have removed the explicitly anti-war bits to change the song's message.Adamnoreply@blogger.com