tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post3607454319080984769..comments2024-01-04T19:27:02.335-08:00Comments on Zenpolitics: STUC adopt BDS against IsraelJohn Hilleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10072819649049077782noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-60662997174385084612009-05-07T14:03:00.000-07:002009-05-07T14:03:00.000-07:00"You don't want peace; you want Israel to continue..."You don't want peace; you want Israel to continue to exist so you can hate them and demonize them. Like most small minded, powerless people, you need an enemy."<br /><br />Enough said.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem<br /><br />JohnJohn Hilleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10072819649049077782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-83648252089313077942009-05-05T14:54:00.000-07:002009-05-05T14:54:00.000-07:00Greetings from the real world.
You can have all t...Greetings from the real world.<br /><br />You can have all the shame and hypocrisy, friend. No need to heap it gratuitously on people who disagree with you.<br /><br />You use all the right buzzwords - "apartheid", "ethnic cleansing", "barbaric", etc. Reads like a Hezbollah/Syrian press release. Which of these entities do you work for?<br /><br />Israel as an apartheid regime--how laughable. It's the only multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy in the entire Middle East. There are millions of Muslim Arabs living, working, owning property and VOTING in Israel. Can the same be said for religious minorities in any other nation in the region?<br /><br />Even the Palestinian Arabs themselves are an oppressed minority in Arab countries that host them. Time and again, they have been treated like dogs (and dogs are very poorly treated in that part of the world) in Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt--the very people who claim to support their "cause".<br /><br />You don't want peace; you want Israel to continue to exist so you can hate them and demonize them. Like most small minded, powerless people, you need an enemy.<br /><br />Within Israel proper, there are all sorts of political parties and at one time the Peace Now movement had swayed a majority of the people to their view--give back the land and live in peace. However, the Arabs embarked on an ill-advised and vicious campaign of bombings that cost out thousands of innocent lives--men, women, children. Peace Now has lost much of its support as a direct result.<br /><br />I reiterate, not that it's worth trying to pierce the veils of your dim little mind, that the way to peace is through peace and nonviolence.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I would advise Israel to continue to defend itself to the utmost, with or without U.S. assistance--which I oppose, by the way. Israel would be best off with military independence--free to design and build its own weapons and decide its foreign policy based on its own needs and not those of some idiotic public service union in Scotland or some presidential candidate in the U.S.<br /><br />What is the use of this STUC union anyway? To go on strike periodically just to remind people that STUC rules.<br /><br />Have a nice day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-48671537148784049072009-04-29T03:53:00.000-07:002009-04-29T03:53:00.000-07:00We're all waiting for the day when apartheid I...We're all waiting for the day when apartheid Israel produces its own Ghandi, and starts to use the non-aggressive peaceful politics it always claims its victims have yet to try.<br /><br />Palestinians use Ghandi-style politics everyday, every hour of their lives - <br />- for instance, whenever the have to negotiate illegal Israeli roadblocks, on their own land, manned by heavily armed racist thugs of the gloroius IDF.<br /><br />Aparthied Israel does the opposite. It has to. Otherwise it wouldn't be committing one of the most serious crimes possible, illegal occupation which, in Israel's case, is a result of its 1967 'unprovoked aggression', the most serious crime that it is possible to commit.<br /><br />If Israel and its supporters really want peace, all they have to do is go back home to Israel behind the Green Line. <br />Nothing could be simpler.<br /><br />I can't think of a more dangerous and lethal course of action for a government to undertake than the attack and occupation of other people and their land.<br /><br />That is why Britian has no job being in either Iraq or Afghanistan (except at the invitation of both these people), and Israel has no excuses for occupying Palestine (WB & G), the Golan Heights of Syria, and the Shebaa Farms of Lebanon.<br /><br />None of Israel's occupation are to do with 'security' - they are about stealing other peoples' land and water.<br /><br />all the best Z!joe90 kanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15925893894108250518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-68844012919254868052009-04-26T17:30:00.000-07:002009-04-26T17:30:00.000-07:00What a deeply shameful comment - made all the wors...What a deeply shameful comment - made all the worse by hiding behind the cloak of anonymity.<br /><br />You say: <br /><br />"The only way to ensure peace and justice in Israel/Palestine is to eliminate the acts of violence that perpetuate injustice."<br /><br />Precisely. End Israel's illegal occupation, ethnic cleansing and barbaric assaults on the Palestinian people. Then we might see a serious end to violence.<br /><br />"The Arabs could have had everything they have been asking for by now, had they tried peaceful negotiation and non-violent Gandhi/King style confrontation."<br /><br />60 years of relentless oppression to maintain an apartheid, racist state and you have the sanctimonious nerve to invoke Gandhi, King and talk of peaceful action!<br /><br />As the massively-endorsed STUC decision reveals, you have lost the moral, as well as legal, argument. All that's left in your verbal arsenal is the facile inversion of calling Palestinans the "aggressors". <br /><br />Does Israel's 'contributions' to medicine, science and humankind include the bombing of innocents inside Gaza's hospitals, the refusal to allow in essential medical supplies, the use of white phosphorus and all the other mass crimes witnessed by the UN, Amnesty, International Red Cross and others? <br /><br />Your defence of this pariah state is yet another illustration of Zionist indoctrination and a complicit refusal to see the mass misery Israel has inflicted.<br /><br />A day of justice will surely come for Palestine. Perhaps you should examine your conscience before that happens.<br /><br />JohnJohn Hilleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10072819649049077782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-53482324442012374352009-04-26T12:17:00.000-07:002009-04-26T12:17:00.000-07:00A one sided, short sighted, hypocritical and fooli...A one sided, short sighted, hypocritical and foolish attempt to "correct" a situation that cannot be corrected through boycotts. The only way to ensure peace and justice in Israel/Palestine is to eliminate the acts of violence that perpetuate injustice. You want the Arabs to have justice? Tell them to stop shooting missiles and training suicide bombers. The Arabs could have had everything they have been asking for by now, had they tried peaceful negotiation and non-violent Gandhi/King style confrontation. Instead they have resorted to atrocities and they have hardened and alienated almost all Israelis, and they have even alienated some Arabs. Go ahead and celebrate your little Pyrrhic victory. Meanwhile, Israel will continue defending itself against aggressors who would destroy it while contributing disproportionately to the major advances in science, medicine and engineering--advances which benefit <I>you</I>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1725411122663433189.post-49030044771635711882009-04-25T12:34:00.000-07:002009-04-25T12:34:00.000-07:00Brilliant news,
and some excellent observations by...Brilliant news,<br />and some excellent observations by your good self JH!<br /><br />all the best!joe90 kanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15925893894108250518noreply@blogger.com